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- From: bellew@ix.netcom.com (Leo Bellew)
- Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c,comp.object,comp.software-eng
- Subject: Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer
- Date: Wed, 20 Mar 1996 06:48:21 GMT
- Organization: Netcom
- Message-ID: <314f47e0.31634043@nntp.ix.netcom.com>
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- So what. Of course you are going to see the people who are doing the
- kinds of things you get called in to do. Same with me. You say the
- elephant has a trunk, I say it has a tail. Lucky you; my end isn't
- quite so friendly.
-
- Ten years ago OO was going nowhere. Then the windows revolution. Sure,
- once you have it you begin to see its true value, but that revolution
- was the force that made OO. Today we take Windows and Visual Basic for
- granted. They are indeed utilizing OO, even if the model is somewhat
- limited. Now that that part of the technology is in hand, your clients
- and you are able to focus on the good stuff. Lucky you.
-
- Leo
-
-
- On 19 Mar 1996 16:44:09 GMT, rmartin@oma.com (Robert C. Martin) wrote:
-
- >
- > >In article <bksDoE2Fu.GBp@netcom.com> bks@netcom.com (Bradley
- > >K. Sherman) writes:
- >
- > > The only reason OO has any credibility is that it is
- > > almost perfect for managing real estate on our monitors,
- > > and we all use monitors.
- > >
- >
- > On 18 Mar 1996 16:11:27 GMT, rmartin@oma.com (Robert C. Martin) wrote:
- >
- > >This is quite incorrect. The applicability of OO to GUI systems is
- > >not specific. It is simply a manifestation of the applicability of OO
- > >to software engineering in general. OO is a discipline which has to
- > >do with the structure of software applications, not with the
- > >applications themselves.
- >
- >In article <314e60eb.28306264@nntp.ix.netcom.com> bellew@ix.netcom.com (Leo Bellew) writes:
- >
- > It seems to me that the economic driving force behind the acceptance
- > of OO is the need to create GUI software. Without OO, GUIs are much
- > more difficult to think about and code. I wonder if it were not for
- > GUIs, we might have evolved to some blend of AI frames and constraint
- > languages rather than settling here and now for OO.
- >
- >I consult with a *lot* of companies who are doing OO. GUI development
- >is a very tiny part of what they do. Indeed, many folks have taken
- >the opposite approach. They will do their GUIs in visual basic, but
- >write the engine behind the GUI using OO in C++.
- >
- >The economic force behind OO has never been solely, or even chiefly,
- >GUI. The economic force behind OO is the prospect of creating all
- >kinds of products with higher productivity and higher quality.
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >
- >--
- >Robert Martin | Design Consulting | Training courses offered:
- >Object Mentor Assoc.| rmartin@oma.com | OOA/D, C++, Advanced OO
- >14619 N. Somerset Cr| Tel: (847) 918-1004 | Mgt. Overview of OOT
- >Green Oaks IL 60048 | Fax: (847) 918-1023 | http://www.oma.com
- >
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